Forbury Park TC 14 December 2012 – R 1 (instigating a protest)
ID: JCA14227
Meet Title:
Forbury Park TC - 14 December 2012
Meet Chair:
GHall
Meet Committee Member 1:
DSteel
Race Date:
2012/12/14
Race Number:
R 1
Decision:
Placings remain as they were called by the Judge. Stakes and dividends are to be paid accordingly.
Facts:
Mr Allison, stipendiary steward, alleged that horse 10 TOM GRAINGER or its driver placed 3rd by the Judge interfered with the chances of horse 9 KARDINYA placed 5th by the Judge as the horses were rounding the final turn.
Judge’s placings were:
1st 1 ROCK OF TARA
2ND 8 DONOSTIA
3RD 10 TOM GRAINGER
4TH 3 FIZZ BANG
5TH 9 KARDINYA
Submissions for Decision:
Mr Allison first demonstrated KARDINYA’s position in the field. This showed that the horse was parked from the 1600 metres and was still parked at the 300 metre point. He also pointed out Mr Chmiel improving from 5th and some distance from KARDINYA. He said the issue for this committee was whether the pressure on KARDINYA was caused by inwards movement from Mr Chmiel who was improving on the outer of Mr Williamson, who in turn was racing outside KARDINYA. He acknowledged that the video angles were not “overly clear” but he said he did not believe that Mr Shand who was driving the horse on the pylons had contributed to the crowding suffered by KARDINYA.
Mr Holland, driver of TOM GRAINGER, gave evidence that Mr Williamson, who was on his outer came in on top of him. He said he was yelling for him to keep out. He could hear Mr Williamson also yelling for room. Mr Holland said he was hit hard and his horse galloped. He said once his horse had rebalanced, it had come home well.
Mr Shand said he did not get a good look but there was pressure from the outside. He said his horse was hanging and tending to move in and he was concentrating on keeping it under control. He believed his horse was running in not out at the time of the incident.
Mr Williamson said he was racing between Mr Holland on his inner and Mr Chmiel on his outer. He said things began to get real tight and he believed he might have touched Mr Chmiel’s wheel at one point. He said there was movement from his outside and he did not believe his horse had contributed to the incident. He said he was running straight and that he had made firm contact with Mr Holland. He said KARDINYA might have been running out slightly and demonstrated the horse’s head was pointing out. It was a tired horse. He said he was yelling that things were tight.
Mr Chmiel said the video was inconclusive and that it was hard to know where the pressure was from. He pointed out on the tape that the cart of his horse was some distance from KARDINYA. He said he was 4 wide and that he heard yelling. He said he was holding his line and that he did not believe he had placed pressure on Mr Williamson. He pointed out that before galloping KARDINYA’s head was turned out and had moved slightly wider on the track.
Mr Davidson gave evidence from his vantage point in the tower at the top of the straight. He said he was aware matters had become very tight but he could not point to the source of the tightening.
Reasons for Decision:
In exercising our discretion and not altering placings, we note that we are not assisted by the camera angles. It is impossible to determine from these which horse caused the tightening. Mr Chmiel is correct when he says that immediately after KARDINYA broke his horse is in view and there is a clear gap between his cart and the horse and cart of Mr Williamson. It is difficult to determine from the horsemen’s evidence just which horse is responsible. Mr Williamson, in particular, has said there was pressure from Mr Chmiel, but he has also said KARDINYA may have run out just a tad. We are satisfied that any inwards movement from Mr Chmiel was slight and that KARDINYA has over-reacted to the pressure it was placed under and has also shifted out slightly before coming into contact with ROCK OF TARA.
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informantnumber: 1330
horsename: TOM GRAINGER
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newcharge:
plea:
penaltyrequired:
decisiondate: 18/12/2012
hearing_title: Forbury Park TC 14 December 2012 - R 1 (instigating a protest)
charge:
facts:
Mr Allison, stipendiary steward, alleged that horse 10 TOM GRAINGER or its driver placed 3rd by the Judge interfered with the chances of horse 9 KARDINYA placed 5th by the Judge as the horses were rounding the final turn.
Judge’s placings were:
1st 1 ROCK OF TARA
2ND 8 DONOSTIA
3RD 10 TOM GRAINGER
4TH 3 FIZZ BANG
5TH 9 KARDINYA
appealdecision:
isappeal:
submissionsfordecision:
Mr Allison first demonstrated KARDINYA’s position in the field. This showed that the horse was parked from the 1600 metres and was still parked at the 300 metre point. He also pointed out Mr Chmiel improving from 5th and some distance from KARDINYA. He said the issue for this committee was whether the pressure on KARDINYA was caused by inwards movement from Mr Chmiel who was improving on the outer of Mr Williamson, who in turn was racing outside KARDINYA. He acknowledged that the video angles were not “overly clear” but he said he did not believe that Mr Shand who was driving the horse on the pylons had contributed to the crowding suffered by KARDINYA.
Mr Holland, driver of TOM GRAINGER, gave evidence that Mr Williamson, who was on his outer came in on top of him. He said he was yelling for him to keep out. He could hear Mr Williamson also yelling for room. Mr Holland said he was hit hard and his horse galloped. He said once his horse had rebalanced, it had come home well.
Mr Shand said he did not get a good look but there was pressure from the outside. He said his horse was hanging and tending to move in and he was concentrating on keeping it under control. He believed his horse was running in not out at the time of the incident.
Mr Williamson said he was racing between Mr Holland on his inner and Mr Chmiel on his outer. He said things began to get real tight and he believed he might have touched Mr Chmiel’s wheel at one point. He said there was movement from his outside and he did not believe his horse had contributed to the incident. He said he was running straight and that he had made firm contact with Mr Holland. He said KARDINYA might have been running out slightly and demonstrated the horse’s head was pointing out. It was a tired horse. He said he was yelling that things were tight.
Mr Chmiel said the video was inconclusive and that it was hard to know where the pressure was from. He pointed out on the tape that the cart of his horse was some distance from KARDINYA. He said he was 4 wide and that he heard yelling. He said he was holding his line and that he did not believe he had placed pressure on Mr Williamson. He pointed out that before galloping KARDINYA’s head was turned out and had moved slightly wider on the track.
Mr Davidson gave evidence from his vantage point in the tower at the top of the straight. He said he was aware matters had become very tight but he could not point to the source of the tightening.
reasonsfordecision:
In exercising our discretion and not altering placings, we note that we are not assisted by the camera angles. It is impossible to determine from these which horse caused the tightening. Mr Chmiel is correct when he says that immediately after KARDINYA broke his horse is in view and there is a clear gap between his cart and the horse and cart of Mr Williamson. It is difficult to determine from the horsemen’s evidence just which horse is responsible. Mr Williamson, in particular, has said there was pressure from Mr Chmiel, but he has also said KARDINYA may have run out just a tad. We are satisfied that any inwards movement from Mr Chmiel was slight and that KARDINYA has over-reacted to the pressure it was placed under and has also shifted out slightly before coming into contact with ROCK OF TARA.
Decision:
Placings remain as they were called by the Judge. Stakes and dividends are to be paid accordingly.
sumissionsforpenalty:
reasonsforpenalty:
penalty:
hearing_type: Protest
Rules: 869(8)(a) and (b)
Informant: Mr C Allison - Stipendiary Steward
JockeysandTrainer:
Otherperson:
PersonPresent:
Respondent: Mr T Chmiel - Licensed Trainer
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