Wyndham HRC 6 January 2018 – R 7 – Chair, Prof Hall
ID: JCA18137
Meet Title:
Wyndham HRC - 6 January 2018
Meet Chair:
GHall
Meet Committee Member 1:
MConway
Race Date:
2018/01/06
Race Number:
R 7
Decision:
Mr Veint admitted the breach. We thus find the breach proved.
Penalty:
Mr Veint is suspended from the conclusion of today’s meeting up to and including 26 January. As we say, we equate this to a 5-day suspension for Mr Veint.
Facts:
Mr Tidmarsh, Stipendiary Steward, alleged that Mr Veint drove carelessly when striking the wheel of PAY ME JIMMY near the 600 metres of race 7, the BH20 Plumbing/Putney Roofing Junior Drivers Mobile Pace, resulting in his horse breaking.
Mr McIntyre, Manager of Stewards, demonstrated that the respondent was one off the markers in last position and was following Mr Hurrell. He urged his horse to go to a 3-wide position. There was contact and LIKE YA MORE broke. Mr Veint acknowledged to the Stewards that he was aware the horse was laying in on the bends.
Mr Tidmarsh said that the respondent had simply not allowed sufficient room when making his shift.
It was acknowledged by both parties that LIKE YA MORE had being laying in at Omakau when it had run second, and that Mr Hurrell had not shifted out when Mr Veint made his move. Mr Tidmarsh said LIKE YA MORE had lost 20 metres at a vital stage of the race.
Mr McCormick said LIKE YA MORE was not an intelligent horse and a driver would have to keep at the horse to get it to keep up. However, the harder a driver pulled on the head of the horse, the more it would fight and hang in. The horse had gone “okay” when wearing Murphy blinds at Roxburgh (when the horse won) but they had not been pulled on that occasion. Mr Veint had pulled the blinds. Mr McCormick questioned whether there had not been a slight easing of the pace at the time of the hitting of the wheel.
Mr Veint accepted he should have allowed more room. He had driven the horse before, including in workouts, and knew the manners of the horse.
Submissions for Penalty:
Mr Tidmarsh produced Mr Veint’s record. He did not appear on their 12-monthly print out. The respondent had had 165 lifetime drives and had had 1 drive in each of the last 3 seasons.
Mr Tidmarsh described the breach as towards the lower end of the scale. The horse was the 3rd favourite in the race and had lost its chance due to Mr Veint’s actions. However, he viewed the consequences as being greater than the degree of carelessness.
Mr Veint submitted that a suspension rather than a fine be imposed.
Reasons for Penalty:
The degree of carelessness is towards the lower end of the spectrum. LIKE YA MORE was laying in, and Mr Veint knew the horse’s manners were suspect. In these circumstances, he should have allowed more room to ensure there was not contact. As Mr Tidmarsh rightly pointed out, LIKE YA MORE lost 20 metres at a vital stage in the race.
The starting point in the Penalty Guide is a 10-drive suspension. There are local meetings where Mr McCormick was intending to start the horse, and he tells us that he had discussed with Mr Veint the possibility of his (Mr Veint) taking horses through to Blenheim. Mr Veint would have driven the team at that meeting.
We have regard to the respondent’s record, the infrequency with which he drives, and his admission of the breach and impose a 5-day suspension.
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hearing_title: Wyndham HRC 6 January 2018 - R 7 - Chair, Prof Hall
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facts:
Mr Tidmarsh, Stipendiary Steward, alleged that Mr Veint drove carelessly when striking the wheel of PAY ME JIMMY near the 600 metres of race 7, the BH20 Plumbing/Putney Roofing Junior Drivers Mobile Pace, resulting in his horse breaking.
Mr McIntyre, Manager of Stewards, demonstrated that the respondent was one off the markers in last position and was following Mr Hurrell. He urged his horse to go to a 3-wide position. There was contact and LIKE YA MORE broke. Mr Veint acknowledged to the Stewards that he was aware the horse was laying in on the bends.
Mr Tidmarsh said that the respondent had simply not allowed sufficient room when making his shift.
It was acknowledged by both parties that LIKE YA MORE had being laying in at Omakau when it had run second, and that Mr Hurrell had not shifted out when Mr Veint made his move. Mr Tidmarsh said LIKE YA MORE had lost 20 metres at a vital stage of the race.
Mr McCormick said LIKE YA MORE was not an intelligent horse and a driver would have to keep at the horse to get it to keep up. However, the harder a driver pulled on the head of the horse, the more it would fight and hang in. The horse had gone “okay” when wearing Murphy blinds at Roxburgh (when the horse won) but they had not been pulled on that occasion. Mr Veint had pulled the blinds. Mr McCormick questioned whether there had not been a slight easing of the pace at the time of the hitting of the wheel.
Mr Veint accepted he should have allowed more room. He had driven the horse before, including in workouts, and knew the manners of the horse.
appealdecision:
isappeal:
submissionsfordecision:
reasonsfordecision:
Decision:
Mr Veint admitted the breach. We thus find the breach proved.
sumissionsforpenalty:
Mr Tidmarsh produced Mr Veint’s record. He did not appear on their 12-monthly print out. The respondent had had 165 lifetime drives and had had 1 drive in each of the last 3 seasons.
Mr Tidmarsh described the breach as towards the lower end of the scale. The horse was the 3rd favourite in the race and had lost its chance due to Mr Veint’s actions. However, he viewed the consequences as being greater than the degree of carelessness.
Mr Veint submitted that a suspension rather than a fine be imposed.
reasonsforpenalty:
The degree of carelessness is towards the lower end of the spectrum. LIKE YA MORE was laying in, and Mr Veint knew the horse’s manners were suspect. In these circumstances, he should have allowed more room to ensure there was not contact. As Mr Tidmarsh rightly pointed out, LIKE YA MORE lost 20 metres at a vital stage in the race.
The starting point in the Penalty Guide is a 10-drive suspension. There are local meetings where Mr McCormick was intending to start the horse, and he tells us that he had discussed with Mr Veint the possibility of his (Mr Veint) taking horses through to Blenheim. Mr Veint would have driven the team at that meeting.
We have regard to the respondent’s record, the infrequency with which he drives, and his admission of the breach and impose a 5-day suspension.
penalty:
Mr Veint is suspended from the conclusion of today’s meeting up to and including 26 January. As we say, we equate this to a 5-day suspension for Mr Veint.
hearing_type: Hearing
Rules: 869(3)(b)
Informant: Mr L Tidmarsh - Stipendiary Steward
JockeysandTrainer: Mr A Veint - Junior Driver of LIKE YA MORE
Otherperson: Mr L McCormick - Assisting Mr Veint, Mr N McIntyre - General Manager of Stewards
PersonPresent:
Respondent:
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